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Corvus
Killed the first Ettin!
Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:21 pm Posts: 45
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 Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
Just a question I can't ask to anyone except to you, brothers!
In my opinion Raven did not developed a sequel because of the lack of market the game would have: they think that such a mixture of shooter/rpg/medieval atmosphere does not work anymore in these days. If people want to shoot at something, they want iper realistic or futuristic weapons; if they want a rpg, they want it to be massive-multiplayer... and so on.
Any comments?
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| Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:01 pm |
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redeemer812
Fried a bunch of Afrit
Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:10 pm Posts: 227 Location: your head.
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
There's no lack of market. Blasting demons and stuff with awesome spells and stuff is just as cool as ever, Oblivion and Dragon Age have proved that. People haven't lost interest in single player RPGs either.
I think Raven stopped working on the Hexen/Heretic series because they consider it to be complete. As a company, they are uninterested in returning to it. You could ask a similar question about the commander keen series. id stopped working on that because, as a company, they just lost interest in it. They just figured there's better stuff to do with their time.
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| Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:23 pm |
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Corvus
Killed the first Ettin!
Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:21 pm Posts: 45
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
redeemer812 wrote: Oblivion and Dragon Age Oblivion is much more a rpg than a shooter!
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| Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:29 pm |
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redeemer812
Fried a bunch of Afrit
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
Quote: Quote: Oblivion and Dragon Age
Oblivion is much more a rpg than a shooter! Perhaps, but I needed to disprove the idea that people are uninterested in single player first person RPGs. What I'm trying to say is that the idea that first-person fantasy action games have gone out of style is kind of unfounded. Nobody's done it in a while, but that's not necessarily because everybody lost interest in it. There are plenty of successful fantasy action games and first person fantasy games that are out right now. Don't you think that mixing those two game styles would be popular? They seem to do well on their own, and the themes are identical. Sounds like a perfect match to me. So, like I said before, I think Raven stopped making Hexen/Heretic games because they just lost interest in it. They had been doing fantasy roleplaying/action games for a long time, and they wanted to try something different. At least, that's what I believe. 
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| Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:01 pm |
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BloodRayne
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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:49 pm Posts: 247 Location: Netherlands
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
It's economics. Currently the market for hack/slash games is over saturated with Wow and other RPGs and it's hard to compete against it with simple game play dynamics. For Raven, Hexen is one of the titles closest to their hearts, they cherish it as something very special and they'll release one, only when they are sure that it can be a commercial and critical success. Until that time I think they'd rather sit on the IP.  ps: Currently ID Software (zenimax) still hold the IP for Hexen, also see the ID website. 
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| Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:59 am |
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mr.math
Killed the first Ettin!
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
I think new idTech 5 engine would fit for new Hexen game, from what I have seen, it can handle large outdoor places, what previous id engines were not made for and that is the reason sequels to Heretic and Hexen didn´t live up to thier predecessors. Especially in Hexen 2 it was a step back to corridors.
But my question is that NOBODY makes fantasy FPS anymore? Not only Raven. Is there singleplayer based fantasy FPS made in last decade? There is Dark Messiah of Might and Magic which was really good, but not as long and without any expansions or anything. There are maybe 5-10 FPS games from war a year...
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| Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:10 am |
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BloodRayne
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
The last great hack&slash game I played was Rune ( http://www.runegame.com/) which was a great game indeed. 
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| Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:25 am |
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redeemer812
Fried a bunch of Afrit
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
Quote: I think new idTech 5 engine would fit for new Hexen game, from what I have seen, it can handle large outdoor places, what previous id engines were not made for The Quake III: Team Arena and MegaTexture technologies can handle outdoor scenes just fine, so available tech wasn't/isn't really a problem. Also I think Hexen 2 was more "closed up" than Hexen 1 because it was so demanding of one's hardware at its time of release. If Hexen II had scenes more complex than they already were, Hexen II simply wouldn't run on most of the hardware of its time.
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TheCoolinator
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
I don't know its still odd to me that they didn't at least attempt some kind of new Hexen with multiplayer or something. I don't know if you guys remember but there was a cool Swords and Sorcery multiplayer game called Legends of Might and Magic. It wasn't popular at all but it did play well. If they were ever thinking of remaking Hexen, I would say to make the multiplayer death matches similar to that.
Fighting with wands, bows, and swords instead of your usual machine gun / rocket launcher.
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knootewoot
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
Last game I could compare to Hexen was Dark Messiah. Also a lineair game with FPS/RPG elements. I always hoped Raven would pick up the heretic/hexen franchise, but I don't think many people are interested in this type of game. I don't know how many people like this type of game, but if I look at my mates and bro's, I am the only one.
Anyway, I look forward to this mod. Currently I am playing the online beta of WARBAND, which is fun medieval killing. Also I reinstalled heretic en hexen and play them occasionally.
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tric5391
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
I love this type of game, but it is true the WoW and other games such as WoW have over-saturated the market with that style of game.
So why would they release a game that would sell very well (even under saturated conditions), when then can take their time, refine it, and release it when it's the thing everybody has been waiting for.
Also, I think that it is very plausible that they do feel that the series is completed. What else is left to do in the story line? Nothing, unless they make something up. Which may piss a lot of fans off.
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| Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:58 pm |
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mr.math
Killed the first Ettin!
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
They still can make medieval fantasy shooter, but it just will be something new, not from heretic/hexen franchise...
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| Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:38 am |
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RaVeN
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Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:03 pm Posts: 89 Location: Ukraine
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
I want raven software fantasy game. Raven's makes it perfectly, amazing, awesome, they master of the fantasy. I hope to see new fantasy game from RavenSoft
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mr.math
Killed the first Ettin!
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
Does anybody know what they are up to right now? They have had a lot of work last years and just released singularity.
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RaVeN
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mr.math
Killed the first Ettin!
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
Lucrative Call of Duty franchise? Pche. Mappack... I heard another rumors, that Project Offset most likely won´t see the light of the day. "Great!" Fortunately we have Edge of Chaos 
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| Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:51 pm |
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tric5391
Picked up the Serpent Staff
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:36 pm Posts: 62 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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 Re: Why Raven isn't interested in developing Hexen III?
Maybe if they wanted to continue the series they would make you fight a fellow warrior. For example, If you played as the cleric, you would have to fight the mage and the warrior.
The story could be that when they were separated upon entering the portal the other two succumbed to the serpent riders power and were trying to redeem their old masters.
I dunno. Just a thought.
Maybe they could pull in the Hertic characters too...
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